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Joined: Mar 2007 Gender: Male  Posts: 2,203 Location: Charlotte Karma: 3 |  | Re: Did baseball actually get anything? « Reply #75 on Oct 18, 2009, 8:53pm » | |
not the best looking with the twotone maybe we should go all the way with maroon infield and gold outfield
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Joined: Sept 2007 Posts: 104 Karma: 1 |  | Re: Did baseball actually get anything? « Reply #76 on Oct 18, 2009, 9:33pm » | |
Oct 9, 2009, 12:10pm, offtopic wrote:homerswin
I don't think anyone here can punch many holes in your reasoning, because most of us agree with you.
But you can never tell about the administration. I'm not a fan of some of the AD's (or assistant AD's...or whatever they call themselves this month). They may believe that baseball is representing on a national level, so lets invest in the other sports to get them up to baseball's level.
I guess the question is "What are Elon's goals athletically". If the administration is comfortable with conference championships as an end goal, then there isn't any reason to invest deeper in a sport that has reached that pinnacle and sustained it. If they want to present Elon on a national level, then baseball is BY FAR the best venue the school has to achieve that.
I would rather see a new stadium built and the existing one converted to softball. The existing stadium could not ever be retrofitted to a degree necessary to bid on hosting a regional. It's not just a matter of seating, it's every other logistic from bathrooms, lines of sight, food service vending, ticket offices, press area, broadcasting, parking etc, etc, etc.
The school would never do it, but it would be interesting if they could enter into a joint venture to build a venue along the University Drive bypass and build a brand new shared facility to replace Fairchild Park. You could have a nice arrangement that is much better than the setup that El Cid has.
Fairchild park stadium was originally built in Danville, moved to Burlington in 1958 (yes, that's 50 years ago) and reconstructed. It's about time for a new stadium in the area anyway ... why not on University Drive near the entrance to O'Kelly Drive. |
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This may upset some of you guys, but if I remember correctly, the school is building a brand new softball field soon. I'm pretty sure I heard this along with the current football stadium renovations last spring. I haven't heard anything about baseball though, other than the renovations that go along with the football stadium, renovating the current field house.
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Joined: May 2007 Gender: Male  Posts: 499 Karma: 2 |  | Re: Did baseball actually get anything? « Reply #77 on Oct 19, 2009, 6:17am » | |
Mike would love a turf field. Easier to keep up, truer bounces, etc.
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Joined: Jun 2007 Gender: Male  Posts: 377 Karma: 1 |  | Re: Did baseball actually get anything? « Reply #78 on Oct 19, 2009, 10:01am » | |
Oct 18, 2009, 8:36pm, homerswin wrote:
Just another one to add, University of Maryland has at a turf/grass field for a number of years: http://www.umterps.com/facilities/md-shipley-field.html
I played on with the club baseball team. It wasn't bad but I have always been a fan of the natural grass when it comes to baseball. Also, with everything else that has been discussed here wouldn't that be a poor use of resources to put turf in the infield? Since most of this thread has been about practice cages, more seating, other facility improvements this seems like a bit of a waste but maybe that is just me?
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Joined: May 2007 Gender: Male  Posts: 257 Karma: 0 |  | Re: Did baseball actually get anything? « Reply #80 on Oct 20, 2009, 5:23am » | |
I have also heard that they are going to redo the field, but heard nothing of the artificial turf. It's my understanding that there are three reasons for redoing the field: poor drainage (or lack thereof), there is a one foot crown between the infield and outfield, and they want to move the leftfield fence out as far as they can before the lightpole gets in the way.
Not sure why we would want artificial tirf on any part of the field.
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Joined: Mar 2007 Gender: Male  Posts: 2,203 Location: Charlotte Karma: 3 |  | Re: Did baseball actually get anything? « Reply #81 on Oct 20, 2009, 2:34pm » | |
In the infield it makes it less likely to have those weird bounces that shoot past a fielder
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Joined: May 2007 Gender: Male  Posts: 499 Karma: 2 |  | Re: Did baseball actually get anything? « Reply #82 on Oct 20, 2009, 3:34pm » | |
And a lot easier to maintain.
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Joined: May 2009 Gender: Male  Posts: 13 Karma: 0 |  | Re: Did baseball actually get anything? « Reply #83 on Oct 20, 2009, 8:55pm » | |
Bottom Line....NOTHING will happen before 2010 season, with perhaps exception of cages (covering,lighting,etc.) which supposedly money has been donated/committed. Mike would prefer artificial turf, even if only infield & foul territory between dugouts. Simply to have a consistent playable surface year round. No tarp pulling for players. Allow numerous showcases with no concerns. Proper equipment & irrigation IS required to maintain art. turf. Re-grading of outfield will be required when changes are made to infield & fencing is relocated.
Mike might accept a full field natural grass renovation with a committment of full year round grounds crew, which is not likely.
Contractors are still pricing both options. Is about a $125,000 difference, so that may determine final outcome, whenever that may be?
Elon administrators still can not figure out that FALL PRACTICE is the most importantant part of the year. This includes individual work as well as team practice.
In the meantime, other BB facilities continue to pass the Phoenix by.
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Joined: Oct 2009 Gender: Male  Posts: 6 Karma: -2 |  | Re: Did baseball actually get anything? « Reply #84 on Oct 26, 2009, 7:34pm » | |
Mike Kennedy has done a great job at Elon, and deserves to be rewarded with new facilities and funding. It doesn't appear that the athletics dept. is even willing to buy the guys new uniforms on a regular basis. If they don't get it right, eventually he will leave, despite his deep Elon roots. Just one question that still burns me......why did he start Tom Porter, who wasn't a weekend starter the entire year, and got knocked at UNC in the 1st inning, in the first game of the NCAA tourney? The first game in dbl. elimination is huge. His reasoning for not starting Reyes was he wanted to go with a righty. So what happens?....Porter gives up 8 runs and gets lifted for a LEFTY in the second inning. I know he is an excellent coach, but I still wonder, but I don't want to be a smart alec and ask him. I know him well enough, we graduated Elon together, but I hate to bring up a sore subject. Insights??
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homerswin Elon Only member is offline
Joined: May 2007 Gender: Male  Posts: 84 Karma: 1 |  | Re: Did baseball actually get anything? « Reply #85 on Oct 26, 2009, 8:08pm » | |
if i recall my knowledge correctly, very reliable scouting reports said "throw your best breaking ball guy at them". porter was a gamble imo as well, but based upon late season performance and his arsenal, combined with the info they obtained, it probably seemed like a good choice that just didnt play its way out like they hoped.
mike and buck, i feel, are rite where they need to be in order to win a regional. i think theyve learned alot especially in the last few years and how the regionals have played out. i look for a super regional berth soon.
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Joined: Oct 2009 Gender: Male  Posts: 6 Karma: -2 |  | Re: Did baseball actually get anything? « Reply #86 on Oct 26, 2009, 8:31pm » | |
Thanks for the insight. Makes sense, if he needed his best breaking ball, Porter was the guy. I'll tell my 12 year old son, who is diehard Elon, so maybe he will understand it. He and I both complained for a week after that game, my wife was ready to kick us out.
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Joined: May 2009 Gender: Male  Posts: 13 Karma: 0 |  | Re: Did baseball actually get anything? « Reply #87 on Nov 23, 2009, 9:00pm » | |
Eventually, Kennedy will see facility changes. Bids, if you can call them that are to be submitted this week( tomorrow I think?). The bid is for total playing surface renovation. Option #1 all natural turf, Option #2 Artificial turf infield with natural turf outfield. Renovation to start May 24th 2010 if team is not in post season. Money will determine which option. Fence will be moved back where possible, but where it is needed the most( LCF power ally) can only be moved 5-6 ft. due to short sightedness by admin. when lights were installed. Pole could be moved at cost of around $10M, assuming pole can handle additional fixtures. Location of scoreboard is not major problem.
A higher padded fence will only keep some line drives in park. 355' fly ball will still get out of park. Applies to both teams. So is fair, but little on short side with aluminuim.
Better be ready to go 5-24-10 or baseball will start Fall 10 practice @ Western Alamance,Nah,,,,Williams H.S. Nah,FB practices in o.f.,,,,Joe Davidison Park, hope not,,,,,Burlington Atletic stadium, good field, not convienent ,,,,,Elon club field,nah. Not many good options. Contractors will not sit around while Elon Admin. jerks them around, even though some are hungry right now.
We will see what happens.
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Joined: Jan 2008 Posts: 394 Karma: 4 |  | Re: Did baseball actually get anything? « Reply #88 on Nov 24, 2009, 10:28am » | |
dirtdoc, When you say $10M I assume you mean $10,000.00 not $10,000,000.00. If $10,000.00 will get it done I hope the admin. will spring for it. It has also appeared to me that the infield slopes off more than 1ft. to the outfield fence. Is that just my perception? Will that be corrected? Would correction screw up drainage?
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Joined: May 2007 Gender: Male  Posts: 257 Karma: 0 |  | Re: Did baseball actually get anything? « Reply #89 on Nov 24, 2009, 9:01pm » | |
I believe, depending on which option is choosen, they will be redoing the drainage as well.
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