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Post by whoanellie on Oct 29, 2013 16:21:14 GMT -5
Guys let's be real and put the blame on the people who, at the very heart of this are responsible. To me, President Lambert and Director Blank are truly the ones who are at fault here for one simple reason: they thought they could go cheap on a coach because Lembo fell into their lap that way and they thought they could get away with it again. Swep was by all accounts the 5th or 6th guy we offered the job to. All other coaches turned us down because we would not pay enough. Period. Swep is a good guy and great at certain very important areas of a college fb program like recruiting. However, I think we realize now that maybe he was put in a position that he was not quite ready for. Lembo came from a place where he couldn't even offer his players scholarships and had to go undefeated to get into the playoffs because his conference was so weak. For him, Elon was a great opportunity to showcase his skills and take the next step in his career. Lambert wants to be in the ACC within the next 10 years, and I think that's fine. We have numerous athletic teams that right now could compete (baseball, soccer) and a few that are almost there but still need a little work (Basketball). Kennedy has been here and isn't going anywhere-don't have to pay him crazy money. All other sports coaches don't make all THAT much other than basketball and football. We paid Matheny, and look what he's done. To get the football program, which is not as far gone as most think because these players that Swep has brought in the last two years are very, very talented, going in the right direction again Leo simply needs to learn from this mistake and let Blank pay a coach superior money for our level. We're in the middle of something like $500 MILLION in new stuff over the next 10 years??? Do not tell me that $500 THOUSAND is too much to make your football program a contender again!!!! Lambert and Blank are laying in the bed that they made. Let's hope that they learn from it and salvage the situation before it does become a scenario where we are having to start from scratch like Lembo did. On finding a new coach the question is always about money. Elon as stated prior will always be a stepping stone but in reality very few of our Head Coaches have excelled at the next level most have been terminated, Peahead Walker @ Wake, Red Wilson @ Duke, and Lembo @ TBD ;-) The rest were pretty much terminated. Correct me if I am wrong but the football team needs a new course or maybe better a vision for the program. One big issue is why do We bring all these student/ athletes into the program that are heralded recruits and they just disappear The coach plays his ones and rarely do We work players into the line up so these guys die in the second half. Let's get a 5th Strength & Conditioning coach in 3 years? I think not? A check to the phoenix club? well that is YOUR only call. Suggestions?
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Post by Deleted on Oct 29, 2013 21:19:32 GMT -5
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Post by fightingchristianlb on Oct 29, 2013 23:20:02 GMT -5
Give Jeff Jagodinski a call at Georgia State, WR coach. Former coach of BC, Former Coordinator in the NFL. Why would he take the job? #1 he wants a head coaching position, he doesn't care where. #2 He was fired from BC for interviewing, not taking, for an NFL job and his road back to Georgia State has been NAIA, FCS, and barely FBS at Georgia State. In college he has held HC,OC, and WR coach. In NFL he was OC. #3 If Elon is a stepping stone he will bring 4 exciting years to the program.
Here's the kicker. He will be cheap. He wants back into the HC position so he can call the shots. Elon could reach out and he would definitely bring the spark. If it was me, I would fish big, and drop my bait where I know their biting.
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Post by whoanellie on Oct 30, 2013 8:49:12 GMT -5
Give Jeff Jagodinski a call at Georgia State, WR coach. Former coach of BC, Former Coordinator in the NFL. Why would he take the job? #1 he wants a head coaching position, he doesn't care where. #2 He was fired from BC for interviewing, not taking, for an NFL job and his road back to Georgia State has been NAIA, FCS, and barely FBS at Georgia State. In college he has held HC,OC, and WR coach. In NFL he was OC. #3 If Elon is a stepping stone he will bring 4 exciting years to the program. Here's the kicker. He will be cheap. He wants back into the HC position so he can call the shots. Elon could reach out and he would definitely bring the spark. If it was me, I would fish big, and drop my bait where I know their biting. you know that Coach Jag is the same coaching tree, BC as our present HC Swepson a BC Alum. now He has those NE roots but FBS school'a pay so much more that FCS Head coaches it's ridiculous the difference in their compensation.
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Post by fightingchristianlb on Oct 30, 2013 17:07:37 GMT -5
If you want to turn it around you have to have a coach and Jags wants to run his own show. He is from the same tree no doubt, but his side of the tree was running a wide open offense. 20-8 coaching record at BC. He was promoted to OC last year at Ga St. He has the itch that needs to be scratched. OC won't get it done. I say you offer him a little less than he is making now and let's see what happens.
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Post by elonpride on Oct 31, 2013 9:42:14 GMT -5
On a positive note, there are 11 days until the basketball regular season begins
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Post by whoanellie on Oct 31, 2013 17:41:22 GMT -5
I am not on board hiring a a successful D-2 coach our talent level has to improve wonder how many signees are redshirted this year do not see many on the 2 deep roster?
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Post by phightingphoenix1 on Nov 9, 2013 16:34:59 GMT -5
....warm up the bus.....
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Post by trianglephan on Nov 10, 2013 11:50:45 GMT -5
Anyone know how long Swepson's contract was for? 3 or 4 years?
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Post by elonfirefighter on Nov 10, 2013 12:39:34 GMT -5
I talked to a few people in the know this weekend who said they thought Swepsons contract was 5 years with an option to terminate after 3 due to progress of the team. With that said if this is true it looks to me like swepson was hired to just get us through with hope of getting a bigger name coach when we move to the CAA. With the lackadaisical attitude of blank and the coach I can think of two possibilities for next season. Both know Swepsons time is done and have just put the season in park or neither care. We will see. He laid a BIG egg this weekend in front of the big donors, if something is going to happen this season the ball has been set rolling. there is no further this coach can fall.
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Post by trianglephan on Nov 10, 2013 13:21:34 GMT -5
Thanks for the info. I've tried to remain optimistic throughout the season but based on what I saw at the game yesterday, it is pretty obvious the time has come for change. Hopefully, the AD has been busy putting together a list of potential coaches as well as putting feelers out. I've always been of the school you wait until the end of the season to make a coaching change. That said, I hope the announcement/replacement comes swiftly after the last game so we still have a chance of landing a solid recruiting class.
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Post by fc97 on Nov 10, 2013 16:14:01 GMT -5
From what I understand, no search in is progress, so you can bet anything that happens won't be until after a change is made.
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Post by phightingphoenix1 on Nov 10, 2013 16:47:21 GMT -5
From what I understand, no search in is progress, so you can bet anything that happens won't be until after a change is made. I'm sure leadership has a better grasp on the situation than me, however, not being proactive in preparing for successor is asinine.... UNLESS - agreement has already been reached with a successor.
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Post by fc97 on Nov 10, 2013 19:24:57 GMT -5
They all but knew Pete Lembo was gone.... and had no idea who to target.
If Swespon is what they ended up with last time, why would you think they have a list now?
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Post by trianglephan on Nov 10, 2013 19:31:06 GMT -5
Maybe I will throw my name in the hat. I am 9-1 in my fantasy league!
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