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Post by fc97 on Dec 3, 2013 6:12:08 GMT -5
Ok,
Dick Biddle resigned at Colgate yesterday, 1 year after winning the conference. Dick Biddle was one of the names that was interested in the Elon job when it was offered to Lembo.
Could Biddle be coming here?
I also have heard that Jerry Moore has contacted about the position
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Post by elonfirefighter on Dec 3, 2013 8:16:54 GMT -5
Im split on Jerry Moore, He is proven as lately, but didn't it take him 20 years to build what he had. It does appear we have a good number of good coaches intrested
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Post by Deleted on Dec 3, 2013 8:27:12 GMT -5
IMO Jerry Moore is a huge no. Moore's last several seasons, while productive, have been wrought with unsavory characters and arrests. Sean Price is the most glaring example of the type of recruit Moore has signed lately. I just don't think Moore could be successful with Elon's academic requirements and would be an dismal failure here. I respect Moore's personal ability, style and character, but he fits the large public school mold much better than a medium sized highly selective private school. Again, just my opinion fwiw.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 3, 2013 8:37:00 GMT -5
I've got a good friend in athletics at Wake. The rumors there are that Lembo is a high favorite for Wake and Grobe is interested in Elon. I think both would be good moves. Part of me asks what kind of staff could Grobe put together? Are the people he might bring along too expensive for Elon? The other side would say there will be assistant coaches in the FCS ranks that would be falling all over themselves for the chance to work for a high profile coach like Grobe. All in all, I think swinging a coach like Grobe is a dream... BUT, IF we were able to get him here I think you hire him hands down. He could do a lot for the program both in the win-loss category and for the overall program and university profile.
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Post by iowaelonfan on Dec 3, 2013 11:09:57 GMT -5
Earl Bruce left Ohio State in 1987 and was hired at Northern iowa. It lasted two miserable years.
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Post by phoenixfc on Dec 3, 2013 11:44:16 GMT -5
iowaelonfan - not sure I understand your comment - are you implying that Grobe would be a bad hire? As far as I know, he is still very popular at Wake Forest, but I have no clue whether Elon could afford him, whether he would be interested, or whether he still has the energy to turn around a program that has pretty much crashed and burned the past 3 yrs. I know nothing about the inner circle of that program or ours, for that matter - but I would think he may be a good match for us.
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Post by iowaelonfan on Dec 3, 2013 13:05:10 GMT -5
I don't know Coach Grobe. All I w,as saying was that folks at Northern Iowa. Were pretty excited about hiring the former Ohio state coach who also had some success at Ohio State. He had two losing seasons at northern Iowa and was replaced with Terry Allen who had some very good years. I believe they lost to app state in the finals once and Delaware a second time. He was a uni alum. He was replaced by another uni alum. Mark Farley who has also done pretty well. What I'm saying is that in that case the glamorous D 1 coach didn't work out but the two former players/alumni have done well. I will get behind who ever is hired but I think someone who is familiar with Elon and someone who is excited to be there would be a good choice. Are there any former Elon players who are coaching and might fit? If not how about former asst. coaches?
To be accurate, just checked, Bruce was at UNI for only one year 1988, before leaving for Colorado State.
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Post by whoanellie on Dec 3, 2013 13:27:03 GMT -5
I don't know Coach Grobe. All I w,as saying was that folks at Northern Iowa. Were pretty excited about hiring the former Ohio state coach who also had some success at Ohio State. He had two losing seasons at northern Iowa and was replaced with Terry Allen who had some very good years. I believe they lost to app state in the finals once and Delaware a second time. He was a uni alum. He was replaced by another uni alum. Mark Farley who has also done pretty well. What I'm saying is that in that case the glamorous D 1 coach didn't work out but the two former players/alumni have done well. I will get behind who ever is hired but I think someone who is familiar with Elon and someone who is excited to be there would be a good choice. Are there any former Elon players who are coaching and might fit? If not how about former asst. coaches? To be accurate, just checked, Bruce was at UNI for only one year 1988, before leaving for Colorado State. Jim Collins LB/ Co DC at Duke should be given consideration Elon Class '74 see DUAA for resume' trumps everyone
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Post by elongraduate88 on Dec 4, 2013 19:16:15 GMT -5
There are some great candidates out there. Does anybody know what the timetable is for making a hirer? I know some schools are still playing.
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Post by elonbev79 on Dec 5, 2013 23:43:55 GMT -5
I personally would love to see Bateman. He is a top quality guy, knows Elon, and wants the job. He is a great recruiter and has been the coach recruiting NC from Ball State. When we were really good under Lembo we recruited the top talent in NC. Swepson followed the Tom O'Brien road to failure, 3rd tier Florida guys, and private school kids from the northeast. NC is one of the top 10 football states in the country. We have been ranked as high as 6th behind FL, GA, SC, TX, and CA. Lembo/Bateman have continued to hit NC high schools and bring in some great players and got Ball State right in a few short years. As a high school coach and EU alum, I really hope Blank goes after Jay.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 6, 2013 8:58:43 GMT -5
There is absolutely nothing new here except for the comment about "Chadwell receding", but it is a good story if you haven't been following developments on this site.
Coaching searches for Wake Forest, Elon hold connected parts
Fri, 6 Dec 2013 05:42:14 There’s no denying the potential domino effect in play that connects the football coaching searches at Wake Forest and Elon.
Or maybe it should be considered a web of tangled angles, criss-crossed inner workings and possibly conflicted decisions.
Either way, here’s chief among what the Times-News has learned:
? Ball State’s Pete Lembo, the former Elon coach with the rising stock, is a candidate for the Wake Forest job — and perhaps the leading one to fill the vacancy created by Jim Grobe’s resignation earlier this week.
? Ball State defensive coordinator Jay Bateman and offensive coordinator Rich Skrosky remain under consideration for the job at Elon, where they served as the top lieutenants to Lembo during his successful run with the Phoenix from 2006-2010.
? If Wake Forest chooses to hire Lembo, then Bateman and Skrosky likely would join him in Winston-Salem.
? Skrosky, though, figures to be a replacement option for Ball State if Lembo leaves. Skrosky’s prolific offenses have become an endearing quality in his favor at Ball State.
? And Bateman could be compelled by the pull to return to Elon. His tough-guy persona on the field resonated with Elon players and his genial nature off the field connected with the school’s supporters during his time there. Bateman also still owns a house in Gibsonville and his wife is from Danville, Va.
Elon’s search is in its second week following Jason Swepson’s firing after three seasons. Parker Executive Search, a firm based in Atlanta, is working with athletics director Dave Blank on pinpointing coaching candidates.
Bateman and Skrosky established in-state recruiting ties while at Elon that have continued to form the source of substantial profits, even in Muncie, Ind., where Ball State is located. Ten players on Ball State’s roster are from North Carolina, the fourth-most prevalent state among the Cardinals.
Bateman has maintained a network of contacts in Charlotte and its surrounding areas, just as Skrosky has throughout the region that stretches from Winston-Salem to Raleigh.
Internet reports have named Charleston Southern’s Jamey Chadwell, the Big South Coach of the Year, as an Elon target. But he could be receding from the mix of potential contenders.
UNC Pembroke’s Pete Shinnick and Lenoir-Rhyne’s Mike Houston are coaches with proven track records on the Division II level, a tier below Elon in the Football Championship Subdivision. They might be fallback choices for Elon.
There’s also speculation that a former member of Grobe’s coaching staffs at Wake Forest — some spent 13 years there with the Demon Deacons — may be on Elon’s radar.
The Star Press of Muncie reported Thursday that Wake Forest athletics director Ron Wellman arrived there Wednesday night, almost certainly to meet with Lembo, who last year at this time was believed to be a factor in the Boston College and Purdue job openings.
Lembo’s reputation as a program builder and winner at Lehigh and Elon, private universities with high academic requirements, makes him a natural fit for Wake Forest. That he has shown the ability to thrive as an underdog only adds to his profile.
Elon was a doormat before Lembo took over. He went 35-22 in five years in charge of the Phoenix, finishing with the school’s only FCS playoff berth and four straight winning seasons. Elon had been 14-42 in the five years that preceded Lembo’s tenure. Swepson went 10-24 the last three seasons at Elon.
Ball State was 6-18 in 2009 and 2010, the two seasons before Lembo came on board. He has engineered seasons of 6-6, 9-4 and 10-2 since then, with a bowl appearance last year and another bowl assignment that will be revealed coming days. His Ball State teams have beaten Indiana twice, Virginia and South Florida.
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Post by fc97 on Dec 6, 2013 10:15:13 GMT -5
Pete Shinnick from UNCP isn't consistent enough or doing enough good stuff with the program he has in D-II. I say he should be out.
Mike Houston is an interesting choice.
I am not sold on picking up Wake Forest scraps. UNCC got the best of what Wake had to offer in their coach, who wanted the Elon job but we didn't pay enough from what I heard.
Skrosky would be my top pick. Bateman is the one who is blamed for all the "go for the knees" stuff our teams did.
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Post by phoenixfc on Dec 6, 2013 13:07:24 GMT -5
Curious - we don't know if Lembo will be hired at Wake, but if he is, would the asst. coach salaries be higher than Elon could pay head coach? I assume we could not afford Grobe...and nothing is really being said locally that indicates we are looking that direction...but I would lean towards experienced head coach. One thing that makes Lembo so good is his successful ability to handle all facets of the job - coaching, managing, public relations, etc.
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Post by whoanellie on Dec 6, 2013 13:55:45 GMT -5
I am glad Blank is using a head-hunter approach as top people that show an interest can make inquires and not affect their status. Wake will make a mistake if does not hire Lembo. Wellman's flight leak should explain WFU's issues. Big money behind the scenes orchestrate so many decisions and it is hard for Wake to believe a guy that would be a perfect fit is just sitting there. Bateman & Shrosky will never coach at Elon there are too many potentially better opportunities as stated in the non-creditied article.
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Post by whoanellie on Dec 6, 2013 13:59:18 GMT -5
I am glad Blank is using a head-hunter approach as top people that show an interest can make inquires and not affect their status. Wake will make a mistake if does not hire Lembo. Wellman's flight leak should explain WFU's issues. Big money behind the scenes orchestrate so many decisions and it is hard for Wake to believe a guy that would be a perfect fit is just sitting there. Bateman & Shrosky will never coach at Elon there are too many potentially better opportunities as stated in the non-creditied article.
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