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Post by fc4life on Oct 10, 2015 17:35:46 GMT -5
Except the staff threw in the towel not trying the onside kick or using the TOs.
We night not have won. However, you have to try.
There is no doubting we are just not that good. Both games we have been dominated. Our TD's have been basically in garbage time.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 10, 2015 17:36:52 GMT -5
Oiling your what?
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Post by Deleted on Oct 10, 2015 17:41:28 GMT -5
Except the staff threw in the towel not trying the onside kick or using the TOs. We night not have won. However, you have to try. There is no doubting we are just not that good. Both games we have been dominated. Our TD's have been basically in garbage time. Yah, I was a little bummed that we didn't try the onside. Not that we had a chance to win at that point, but it'd have been nice to have put the ball in the offense's hand one more time.
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Post by Simpson on Oct 10, 2015 17:51:52 GMT -5
Looks like coaches have landed on DT. I missed the Q3 (oiling my deck), did CC get in at all I the second half? DT played pretty much the entire game except for a series in the first half. He showed some poise in the pocket and threw a few good deep balls and hit on some intermediate stuff. I think your right about the coaches landing on DT.
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Post by fc4life on Oct 10, 2015 18:46:38 GMT -5
34-0 27-0
Out of the gate. These guys have got to change up something during the week. I don't buy the youth thing this far into the season. We are just not ready to play. Heck we were down out of the gate against Towson. These starts are putting the game out of reach early.
If we come out slow vs. JMU they might hang 80 on us.
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Post by bhill483 on Oct 10, 2015 23:27:17 GMT -5
This is not so much game related, but just a random thought. Ever notice that the pictures used for the articles are just random stock photos? For instance we played in Richmond and the picture is clearly of a home game against Charlotte, which would have been from last year. You are telling me there isn't one person with the team/media that goes to every game that could snap a few photos? Heck a communications student would probably be into doing it as an internship/experience type thing. Just seems like we would be a school that could manage to use a photo from the actual game. For some reason this always bothers me a little.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 11, 2015 3:27:16 GMT -5
I think maybe some random communications student may be the problem. It needs to be an AD employee's job responsibility. If that's the way it is right now, that employee wouldn't last long with my company.
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Post by homer on Oct 11, 2015 7:55:36 GMT -5
Looks like coaches have landed on DT. I missed the Q3 (oiling my deck), did CC get in at all I the second half? DT played pretty much the entire game except for a series in the first half. He showed some poise in the pocket and threw a few good deep balls and hit on some intermediate stuff. I think your right about the coaches landing on DT. Cut the sugar coating. 18 yards of offense in the first half. Down 27-0 in the 4th. Two more picks. Yes, there were some excellent throws, like to Tre down the sideline, but it is what it is. If, and this is a big if, the coaches have "landed" on DT, then either CC sucks to high heaven or DT has some interesting photos. Six picks in six quarters, yardage in garbage time is not what should determine a starter. This "competition" has got to still be wide open. And that's too bad. This should have been put to bed a long time ago, but since the coaches decided to go down this path, they must finish it. Neither of the two have, as yet, grabbed the starting position.
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Post by phoenix2008 on Oct 11, 2015 8:11:12 GMT -5
For an away game, I imagine its tough to get an approved hi-res image of the game back to campus in time for the recap -- which they are trying to get out asap.If you look at the home game recaps, they feature images from the actual game...but anyway, let's stay focused here... I was at the game and it was evident that Elon just isn't on par with Richmond talent wise. We had a solid game plan, we executed fairly well, but Richmond just has more talent than we do. DT seems to be getting better with every game and has now thrown for over 200 yards his past two games (that's a good sign -- plus he reduced his interceptions by 50% haha). We went 0-8 in conference last year, so to think we can start competing with the UNH, Richmond and JMU's (all nationally ranked) is probably a little unrealistic...(I know i'm the one who predicted a win yesterday ) ... We could beat any team on any given saturday, which is why having the opportunity to play JMU next week is exciting, but realistically our best shot at more wins this season will be these last 4 games of the year after JMU. That's were we should see improvement from last year resulting in wins...I do see improvement from last year against UNH and Richmond, but the gap is so big at this point that it didn't result in wins. JMU has been hanging 50 on people, so let's see if our guys can keep them in the 20s..that would be an accomplishment in my eyes. Then, as I said, let's try and go 2-2 in our last 4 games... Go Phoenix!
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Post by Simpson on Oct 11, 2015 8:36:07 GMT -5
DT played pretty much the entire game except for a series in the first half. He showed some poise in the pocket and threw a few good deep balls and hit on some intermediate stuff. I think your right about the coaches landing on DT. Cut the sugar coating. 18 yards of offense in the first half. Down 27-0 in the 4th. Two more picks. Yes, there were some excellent throws, like to Tre down the sideline, but it is what it is. If, and this is a big if, the coaches have "landed" on DT, then either CC sucks to high heaven or DT has some interesting photos. Six picks in six quarters, yardage in garbage time is not what should determine a starter. This "competition" has got to still be wide open. And that's too bad. This should have been put to bed a long time ago, but since the coaches decided to go down this path, they must finish it. Neither of the two have, as yet, grabbed the starting position. Homer, are you an Elon fan or just a CC fan? I ask because I didn't see as MANY comments from you yesterday about the receivers dropping the ball. It was no coincidence that the game plan involved less bubble screens and more intermediate to deep passes with DT at quarterback. Also, outside of the Wake Forest game, it was the first time that both quarterbacks were available and Skrosky stayed with one versus the rotation of the two. That might be an indicator that he has "landed" on DT.
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Post by homer on Oct 11, 2015 10:03:53 GMT -5
Read my comments again. I clearly stated the receivers are a serious problem.
And yes the bubble screen is gone. FINALLY!!! And if you paid attention to the game, the running game was disposed of, particularly in the first half. Again, FINALLY!!!
The game plan yesterday was starkly different from anything before. And yet it yielded a grand total of 18 yards in the first half. Only after everything was essentially settled did the yards accumulate. My suspicion is primarily because that's when the receivers figured out how to get open.
All I'm trying to point out is that there is virtually zero production when it counts. Frankly, this goes beyond DT or CC.
And I wouldn't classify yesterday as the first time both were fully available. One of the two couldn't grip a football all week. I'll let you figure out which that is.
Ultimately, neither of these kids has claimed the spot. The approach with them from the beginning was flawed. What should have happened was that one would have the spot and see what he does with it. If, after 3 or 4 games, it was clear that it wasn't working, then the change is made. Flip flopping like this has helped neither. It has hurt the offense by preventing the establishment of any kind of rhythm.
Maybe the coaches have finally settled on DT. Fine. Go with it. Me, I think it's a mistake. We've seen Elon (not just CC) rise to the occasion and win two games, when those games were very much in doubt. We have seen Elon (not just CC) have the guts and moxie to win in triple overtime. We have seen Elon (not just CC) overcome a deficit against a good team and earn the first conference win.
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Post by Simpson on Oct 11, 2015 15:44:37 GMT -5
Read my comments again. I clearly stated the receivers are a serious problem. And yes the bubble screen is gone. FINALLY!!! And if you paid attention to the game, the running game was disposed of, particularly in the first half. Again, FINALLY!!! The game plan yesterday was starkly different from anything before. And yet it yielded a grand total of 18 yards in the first half. Only after everything was essentially settled did the yards accumulate. My suspicion is primarily because that's when the receivers figured out how to get open. All I'm trying to point out is that there is virtually zero production when it counts. Frankly, this goes beyond DT or CC. And I wouldn't classify yesterday as the first time both were fully available. One of the two couldn't grip a football all week. I'll let you figure out which that is. Ultimately, neither of these kids has claimed the spot. The approach with them from the beginning was flawed. What should have happened was that one would have the spot and see what he does with it. If, after 3 or 4 games, it was clear that it wasn't working, then the change is made. Flip flopping like this has helped neither. It has hurt the offense by preventing the establishment of any kind of rhythm. Maybe the coaches have finally settled on DT. Fine. Go with it. Me, I think it's a mistake. We've seen Elon (not just CC) rise to the occasion and win two games, when those games were very much in doubt. We have seen Elon (not just CC) have the guts and moxie to win in triple overtime. We have seen Elon (not just CC) overcome a deficit against a good team and earn the first conference win. Homer, Let's not have a "pissing match". I simply asked why you were so quiet about the receivers (only a couple comments) yesterday versus when CC was playing while DT was out. And I didn't see you trying to convince everyone on here that CC is the better quarterback with moxie and winning 2 games. CC is a gamer and I am sure a good young man as I am sure DT is too. So did I pay attention yesterday? Homer I have paid attention to every game this season including to the games in person. In my opinion CC is better suited for a read option offense (Florida with Tim Tebow) where it is a run/pass scheme (as you have alluded to several times) where as DT is a better fit for a spread offense (Texas A&M) where it is a pass/run scheme with a more vertical (intermediate and deep) passing game. There is no question that DT throws a better intermediate to deep ball right now. That explains the game plan. I believe that Elon runs more of a spread offense which (as Skrosky has mentioned) DT has a better acumen for his offense. To your last comments about the 2 wins, most fans will tell you the defense and special teams led to those 2 expected wins (see some of your earlier comments). For the record, I don't have a personal "favorite", I just want the one who gives us a better chance to win within the offense. At this time, it would seem like the coaches believe that is DT.
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Post by homer on Oct 11, 2015 16:35:11 GMT -5
Enough of this. If this takes place here, imagine the impact it has on both boys and the rest of the team. I will discuss the QB situation no more.
Now, back to the reaction to the Richmond game.
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Post by Keepthefaith on Oct 11, 2015 16:42:07 GMT -5
Until we establish a running game we will not win consistently nor do i see this team winning 3 more, 2 might be a push.
The challenege now is how good is our defense?? The last 2 games did not show a whole let. Granted superior teams.
This whole QB situation has been mis managed by Skrosky. Pick one and stick with a few games. Kills the rhythm and you do not one the QB looking over his shoulder. Bottom line we have to run the ball effectively or this team is screwed.
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Post by elon78 on Oct 11, 2015 18:34:46 GMT -5
Was at the game yesterday and was so disappointed that I left at 27-0.....as did a lot of Elon fans who attended the game. So I did not see the two touchdowns from Elon. What I did see was a talent mismatch in size, speed. I thought the Elon game plan was sound but the interception to start the game after a 3 and out by our D and our O moving the ball was a killer. Then Richmond put the hammer down and by half-time we were looking for small victories in the stands....a first down....a completed pass. Tre made a couple of good plays but also had a terrible drop of a long perfect pass. I agree with the above we are not going to be a good team until we have some semblance of a running game. Twice when the score was 14-0 we went for 4th down instead of kicking the field goal....wonder how 14-6 may have changed the attitude of team and fans? But the bottom line is Richmond and UNH are bigger, stronger, more talented. Richmond's O line seemed to dwarf our D line in size. I still have hope our defense will perform in the last four games (JMU is going to be brutal) and we can get 2/3 wins which would make this season a success. The key is recruiting and we need a stellar class coming in with hopefully a couple of playmakers.
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