unhaluminct
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Post by unhaluminct on Oct 6, 2015 11:35:04 GMT -5
Why the expectation for video review? There wasn't any at the UNH@Stony Brook game either.
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Post by fc4life on Oct 6, 2015 11:57:29 GMT -5
I've been to UNH a few times. The whole package at Elon far exceeds UNH. Even with your new edition the stadium is not even close to Rhodes.
However, I agree 100% with you about the culture of football at UNH. It should be applauded. I'm jealous of that. We had that culture brewing under Lembo and then our admin blew it up.
We like to talk a big game about our commitment to win. However, we just can't get it right.
I have no doubt we can do it.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 6, 2015 16:28:53 GMT -5
The expectation for video review came from the commissioner before our first season with CAA. He said CAA Football was starting video review that season. We had video review for the Towson game. Just an assumption all games would have it.
RE the comment about learning from the UNH football program: I think there are aspects in all things from which to learn. There are many more successful people on earth who spot a good thing and perfect it to their situation; as compared to innovators. And why in the world would we copy a program like Wofford over a program like UNH???
I'm not happy with where we are either, but MY OPINION is that we are on the right track. Only time will tell.
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Post by Simpson on Oct 6, 2015 17:02:08 GMT -5
Frustrated, I wasn't blaming the refs for the game, just noting that I always thought face guarding was illegal. And that interception was, as you noted, a reception that the DB stole. I think there's a balance between giving the staff a pass on the offensive production and crucifying them. Few of us on here exhibit that balance. As for improvement, we are 2-3. That's an improvement on 1-11 already. And I think we have a couple more wins coming. Finishing with 4 wins would be a dramatic improvement, wouldn't you say? Especially since that would mean 3 wins in the CAA. Yes, at this point the defense gets most of the credit for the wins, if you feel you have to give credit. I still think the offense will come together in a big way. But you're absolutely right. The runs up the middle for -2 yards on second down are killers. It was clear UNH was ready for that and the bubble screens. That's virtually all we did in the first quarter. I did like the first play going deep -- but the receiver and DB hit the ground as the ball went in the air. Incidental contact, I guess. But then we have a penally. 2nd and 15. A run that doesn't work and we're staring at 3rd and 15 or so. That's not a recipe for success. Hopefully, hopefully we saw that the recipe for success is completely forsaking the run. Be a crazy passing team until the defense backs up and gives us the run. Heck, CC is still our leading rusher. Let him do his thing. And if DT is in the game, he's capable of using his feet, too, although not nearly as well. Still... Bottom line, pass the friction ball all the time. Then, start mixing in the run. Who do you think gives us the best option in the passing game? DT seems to stay in the pocket longer which proved to somewhat successful with the 250 yards passing. I know he had the 4 int's but we did score twice.
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Post by homer on Oct 6, 2015 17:40:04 GMT -5
Clearly, Simpson, your desire is to provoke me. No worries.
Your question is which QB, CC or DT, would be the best option going forward. Let's look at the stats.
CC: 55% completions, 448 yards, 3 TD, 1 int, 90 yds/gm, 23 yds rush/gm, 4 full games. DT: 48% completions, 290 yards, 1 TD, 4 int, 145 yds/gm, 7 yds Rush/gm, 1 full game.
So, in essence, you're asking me if I prefer someone who doesn't throw interceptions or one who throws interceptions on almost 10% of his pass attempts? Someone who has higher completion % or lower? Someone who is more mobile or less?
CC wins that comparison.
The only comparison DT wins is yds/gm, and that's grossly inflated because his 3 qtrs of the UNH game was all passing. Heck, he had as many passes in that game as CC had in two full games. So that number is pretty skewed.
Stats. What to do with them.
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Post by whoanellie on Oct 6, 2015 19:06:16 GMT -5
Hint: Start a new thread as this topic has changed. We lost to a superior team. Let's move on to Richmond. wish our Yankee QB was named Grant. it would make a great headline.
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Post by homer on Oct 6, 2015 20:27:06 GMT -5
Hint: Start a new thread as this topic has changed. We lost to a superior team. Let's move on to Richmond. wish our Yankee QB was named Grant. it would make a great headline. Ok. That's pretty funny.
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Post by Frustrated Fan on Oct 6, 2015 21:54:47 GMT -5
Homer - nice job with the stats. Both QB's have their upsides and their downsides. Skrosky was and still is the QB coach and should be able to figure out which one is going to provide the best oppty to win. Its his background and HIS JOB!
BUT, we need to stop blaming the past staff for the state of the program and giving a pass to this staff. The last year of Lembo we saw a dip in wins from the previous years. Then came Swepson who all can probably agree was not ready to be a head coach as he had no idea how to relate to the kids, no idea how to work the alumni, etc. However, he did recruit many of the kids on this team and many are solid players (see defense). Swepson's success at 5-3-2 wins in his three seasons was the reason he was let go as we were going in the wrong direction coupled with his relationships. His teams were fairly competitive (not counting the FBS games). His last season the team beat a top 20 team and was in most of the games while scoring points and generating offense/see 2012 season stats/game results. Some keep pointing that we are going in the right direction because we have 2 wins this year compared to last year's one win. We are very lucky to have two wins right now with the anemic offense we have mustered. Our defense has come up huge in BOTH wins, we were helped by some phantom Pass Interference penalties on a winning drive and don't forget, as many pointed out, Towson's coaching staff should have been arrested for their in game decisions. I am not ready to concede that we have shown improvement this year / outside the defense which I have already noted. Skrosky has better relationship skills than Swepson, and the kids seem to like him, but right now, almost a year and a half in, our offense is sputtering - and this was supposed to be HIS specialty. There isn't improvement from last year on offense, if you asked me. We are still dealing with drops, a limited run game, and play calling that is predictable. The common excuse from staff and others on these posts, is that we want to blame previous coaching, and that Skrosky needs to wait for "his" guys to develop" etc...yet, his guys are dropping passes (same as those Swep kids who weren't asked back), his linemen aren't opening holes, and his QB's are as raw as any we have had in years here. The defense with Sweps kids and Skrosky's mixed together have shown improvement. Just last week Skrosky commented he was happy with his Qb's ball protection - well that backfired this week with the 5 Ints. There isn't anything positive with the offense and special teams (outside punting) has been nothing more than average. Two wins from one win is an improvement in number only, especially if you don't look at how the two wins came. Five games in and the offense still hasn't improved 0 and lets be honest DT's second half passing yardage was against a team who was already up and not being as aggressive and played much of the fourth quarter with second/third teamers. DT did throw the ball well as I noted earlier, but let's not paint a picture that is not there on improvement for the offense for this season or that the two wins are a true improvement over last year. We do need to see improvement this year by the offense and it wont be easy as we head into CAA play. This is on the staff now in my opinion.
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Post by elonpride on Oct 7, 2015 7:12:23 GMT -5
His last season the team beat a top 20 team and was in most of the games while scoring points and generating offense/see 2012 season stats/game results. Swepson did NOT guide the team to a win over a top 20 team his last season. In fact, if my memory serves me correctly, the only wins were over a D-II school and a Furman team that was wrecked with injuries. As for the offense that season, they were in some game, but were also dismantled big time in several games in 2013. It was also the season we saw the Swepson decision to have the GT game shortened. I had never heard of such a thing at the college level, but I live in a bubble and football isn't the center of my life.
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Post by fc97 on Oct 7, 2015 7:19:57 GMT -5
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Post by Frustrated Fan on Oct 7, 2015 9:12:28 GMT -5
ElonPride - my mistake, it was his first season. In his last season, his team won 2 games, but was in many more. Three were lost by 15pts/under, 1 was lost 10 pts or less and three were lost 5 pts or less for a total of 6 games that we were actually in with an offense moving the ball AND scoring. GT was ridiculous debacle - agreed. But the rest of the season showed 2 wins and 6 losses with games within a competitive situation and many proclaiming that wait until Swepson's young team grows up (see current defense). Dismantled as you say only by GT and West Virginia Wes. Other games were competitive. Again point being, our offense this year is far behind the defense and we need to stop making excuses waiting for younger players to grow. Coaches have to coach and come up with a competitive game plan while playing the kids that are ready for FCS competition and mix in the younger ones to give them experience. When you have younger kids missing blocks, dropping passes etc. it doesn't help the QBs' confidence - especially when you have only young guys at this position because you pushed out the lone upperclass QB without giving him a chance. And there were ample games last year to give him significant playing time to see if he could play. FYI, checking the Temple website, a team that is playing very well again this year, that QB is listed second on the depth chart. Can he play - ?? But seems to have made an impression on that staff to list him second when we didn't even give him a shot in the long season we went through last year...and now we are all waiting for one of these two freshmen (RS/True) to step up...
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Post by EUtrue on Oct 7, 2015 10:08:40 GMT -5
huge mistake for not keeping some 5th year players. That would have been the game changer! Many freshman just arent ready for FCS competition...hence the idea of redshirt. There a few freshman out there that can compete right away but not many. Huge development and knowledge differencein the game bt freshman and upper classmen!
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Post by Deleted on Oct 7, 2015 10:33:18 GMT -5
huge mistake for not keeping some 5th year players. That would have been the game changer! Many freshman just arent ready for FCS competition...hence the idea of redshirt. There a few freshman out there that can compete right away but not many. Huge development and knowledge differencein the game bt freshman and upper classmen! The only caveat I would have regarding this post is that regardless of the experience of some of the 5th year seniors, If they aren't willing to "embrace the grind" ergo, accept the new coaching regime's philosophy, they would have been a distraction and, therefore, counter productive. All the rest, I agree with.
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Post by elonpride on Oct 7, 2015 10:50:18 GMT -5
ElonPride - my mistake, it was his first season. In his last season, his team won 2 games, but was in many more. Three were lost by 15pts/under, 1 was lost 10 pts or less and three were lost 5 pts or less for a total of 6 games that we were actually in with an offense moving the ball AND scoring. GT was ridiculous debacle - agreed. But the rest of the season showed 2 wins and 6 losses with games within a competitive situation and many proclaiming that wait until Swepson's young team grows up (see current defense). Dismantled as you say only by GT and West Virginia Wes. Other games were competitive. Again point being, our offense this year is far behind the defense and we need to stop making excuses waiting for younger players to grow. Coaches have to coach and come up with a competitive game plan while playing the kids that are ready for FCS competition and mix in the younger ones to give them experience. When you have younger kids missing blocks, dropping passes etc. it doesn't help the QBs' confidence - especially when you have only young guys at this position because you pushed out the lone upperclass QB without giving him a chance. And there were ample games last year to give him significant playing time to see if he could play. FYI, checking the Temple website, a team that is playing very well again this year, that QB is listed second on the depth chart. Can he play - ?? But seems to have made an impression on that staff to list him second when we didn't even give him a shot in the long season we went through last year...and now we are all waiting for one of these two freshmen (RS/True) to step up... Well, if you look at last year by the moral victory logic, Skrosky had the team competitive in many games against arguably stronger competition in comparison to swepson's last year. They hung tight with A&T, Delaware, Towson, W&M & Maine. Average of 6.8 (less than 1 score) margin of loss in those 5 games. So far this conference season, 1 of those games listed above was turned into a win, and the team hung tighter overall against UNH (versus 2014). As for Loughery, I'm not sure what was up with him. I have a feeling that if he were great, he would have started for 2 seasons here. I agree the offense is behind, but I have a feeling it's about to come to life in a big way.
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Post by homer on Oct 7, 2015 11:51:46 GMT -5
All right, ElonPride, the last time you and I had a good feeling, it worked out pretty well. Let's see what happens here the next couple weeks.
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