UAB and Elon

[homer]

With UAB dumping their program, I wonder if Skrosky will target any of their players and/or recruits.

[fc4life]

I was thinking the same thing. I'm sure we looked at some of the kids from the Atlanta area during the recruiting cycle.

Also, David Watford the former UVA QB has asked for his release. He might be a plan B for our QB troubles.

[whoanellie]

I remember the flock of coaches that picked apart the ETSU program w/ Hamilton they really had some fine talent too
I cannot think of any area that could not be improved

[whoanellie]

also See Pat Sullivan is retiring (health issues)

[elonfirefighter]

Talked about this last night on the radio show and how it could effect the CAA. If OD pulls JMU into the CAA, depending on who replaces them we could be looking at lopsided divisions or even worse a Northern Break off in football

[whoanellie]

Dec 4, 2014 8:39:33 GMT -5 elonfirefighter said:

Talked about this last night on the radio show and how it could effect the CAA. If OD pulls JMU into the CAA, depending on who replaces them we could be looking at lopsided divisions or even worse a Northern Break off in football

What? JMU is in the CAA, ODU is in Conf. USA UAB may be dropped as they have to have a complete membership, Which is why Charlotte added football. Also App became bowl eligible and Georgia Southeren won the Sunbelt were denied a Bowl spot and appeal, that has to suck and speaks volumes on the SunBelt leadership.

[elonfirefighter]

Dec 4, 2014 16:36:47 GMT -5 whoanellie said:

Dec 4, 2014 8:39:33 GMT -5 elonfirefighter said:

Talked about this last night on the radio show and how it could effect the CAA. If OD pulls JMU into the CAA, depending on who replaces them we could be looking at lopsided divisions or even worse a Northern Break off in football

What? JMU is in the CAA, ODU is in Conf. USA UAB may be dropped as they have to have a complete membership, Which is why Charlotte added football. Also App became bowl eligible and Georgia Southeren won the Sunbelt were denied a Bowl spot and appeal, that has to suck and speaks volumes on the SunBelt leadership.

Sorry I missed Typed. if Old D pulls JMU into CUSA, that opens up a spot and could lead to a CAA North where everyone is Associate Members. With a large portion American East members we could see a break off where the AE adds football

[fc97]

I know what you're saying, but it is unlikely. The teams could have already left because of this and haven't. There is still a penalty for leaving, even as an associate and they would lose an autobid for 2 years.

Villanova and Richmond would still be here, as well as Elon, W&M, Towson and Delaware. That's still 6 and retains the autobid. Plus Albany and Stony Brook still want entry for all sports.

The CAA has known about JMU's potential for a long time, they have their plan already to pick up a northern football school soon and a southern football school to replace JMU. Furman is wanted and Coastal wants in. There are choices

[fc97]

I guess what I am saying is, without JMU the CAA Football is already split:

4 CAA Members
2 A-10 Member
1 Big East Member
4 American East

Even if the American East teams split off, it is doubtful that Rhode Island will move. Rhode Island once before wanted to leave, but the loss of UMass and ODU got them to stay. It is also doubtful they will separate from fellow A-10 member Richmond.

Villanova is closer to the CAA South schools than North. So, it makes no sense overall for them to leave as an associate.

Albany was supposed to come in with us and either delayed or declined. Stony Brook still wants in. It's doubtful that they leave.

So even if the 4 AE schools leave, they still need to grad two other schools to be eligible for an automatic bid, which means grabbing a NEC, Pioneer, Patriot school or Monmouth.

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Overall the balance of power is the same. And the CAA has already said that if a northern school leaves, a northern school will replace it. And if a southern school leaves, then a southern school will replace it. Couple that with other schools like Coastal Carolina, Central Conn. State, Monmouth. I think it is likely that you could swing Georgetown into the CAA, Fordham (another A-10 member) or try after Furman.

What I am trying to say is, I get the risk and the internet talk. But, there's no bigger of a risk than there was before without JMU. And the conference overall isn't stupid, JMU was in the ODU/CUSA talk when ODU left. The conference has to see that JMU was temporary at best and Elon had to know from due diligence that JMU wasn't going to be long term.

[whoanellie]

Sorry no one cares

[elon_phan]

Dec 5, 2014 7:30:42 GMT -5 fc97 said:

I guess what I am saying is, without JMU the CAA Football is already split:

4 CAA Members
2 A-10 Member
1 Big East Member
4 American East

Even if the American East teams split off, it is doubtful that Rhode Island will move. Rhode Island once before wanted to leave, but the loss of UMass and ODU got them to stay. It is also doubtful they will separate from fellow A-10 member Richmond.

Villanova is closer to the CAA South schools than North. So, it makes no sense overall for them to leave as an associate.

Albany was supposed to come in with us and either delayed or declined. Stony Brook still wants in. It's doubtful that they leave.

So even if the 4 AE schools leave, they still need to grad two other schools to be eligible for an automatic bid, which means grabbing a NEC, Pioneer, Patriot school or Monmouth.

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Overall the balance of power is the same. And the CAA has already said that if a northern school leaves, a northern school will replace it. And if a southern school leaves, then a southern school will replace it. Couple that with other schools like Coastal Carolina, Central Conn. State, Monmouth. I think it is likely that you could swing Georgetown into the CAA, Fordham (another A-10 member) or try after Furman.

What I am trying to say is, I get the risk and the internet talk. But, there's no bigger of a risk than there was before without JMU. And the conference overall isn't stupid, JMU was in the ODU/CUSA talk when ODU left. The conference has to see that JMU was temporary at best and Elon had to know from due diligence that JMU wasn't going to be long term.

Interesting. Good analysis.