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Post by We Won?!? on Dec 18, 2018 22:05:49 GMT -5
Nothing like a close win against a 2 win team who’s only wins are Oglethorpe (who???) and Tennessee Tech. Kennesaw is Ranked 313 in the country using the NCAA NET rankings. But hey, seeing as we are 317, this was a big upset on the road.
Congrats, Matt. Worst non conference scheduler in the country. Can’t wait for our big battle at UMKC. Just get rid of him already.
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Post by Mr. Optimistic on Dec 19, 2018 10:19:02 GMT -5
Happy to see the win on the road, Seibring had a double double and Santa Ana had 21 points along with good efforts by freshmen Chuck Hannah and Chris Wooten.
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Post by fc4life on Dec 19, 2018 10:50:53 GMT -5
A win is a win. We’ve beaten two awful teams and two lower division teams.
Let’s see how CAA play goes.
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Post by euphoenix99 on Dec 19, 2018 11:04:03 GMT -5
The bottom half of the CAA is really bad, so I wouldn't be surprised to see 5 or 6 conference wins.
I'm at the point where there is really nothing Matheny can do to prove he deserves another year. I'm glad the guys got a win and I always want Elon to win, but this doesn't really change anything.
My biggest concern is they somehow get 7 or 8 wins in the CAA and Blank justifies keeping Matheny because we're "improving". The fact that Tendler is still here makes me question whether Blank will do anything no matter the outcome.
Go Phoenix!
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Post by bhill483 on Dec 19, 2018 11:41:32 GMT -5
Nothing like a close win against a 2 win team who’s only wins are Oglethorpe (who???) and Tennessee Tech. Kennesaw is Ranked 313 in the country using the NCAA NET rankings. But hey, seeing as we are 317, this was a big upset on the road. Congrats, Matt. Worst non conference scheduler in the country. Can’t wait for our big battle at UMKC. Just get rid of him already. I am not justifying anything with this team, but it's kind of silly to complain about the non-conference scheduling being weak when the team is barely scraping by. If they were playing competition that was any better then the results would be even worse. Just imagine if we had a schedule full of Power 5 schools. I for one am fine with the level of opponents based on the success level, or lack there of, of the program. At this level really the goal is to do as well as you can during the season to get the best seed possible in the conference tournament in hopes you can win and make the big dance. The non-conference is really for s*@^s & giggles because rarely is a CAA team going to be in position to have an at large bid and really need to have a great SOS or RPI.
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Post by Alamance on Dec 19, 2018 15:09:20 GMT -5
The non conference schedule was pathetic. We only made it look less pathetic because we are that bad of a team, and that poorly coached. The only two division 1 wins we have are against teams who are ranked 300+.
Scheduling tougher and more notable opponents might at least draw a bit of a crowd. Instead, Matheny just wants to pad his winning percentage with games like Central Penn and Milligan.
Has anyone ever looked at his bio on the athletics page? They give a year-by-year summary. Not one year do they list his record, rather, they only list the number of wins he got. They try and make the usual sub .500, 14 win season sound like a true accomplishment! Every other coach has their wins and losses by year shown.
Fire MM. We should be on track to be a solid mid major school. We can barely scrape away wins from the worst low majors in the country. That Kennesaw team was horrendous.
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Post by PhoenixPhan1 on Dec 19, 2018 19:57:30 GMT -5
Nothing like a close win against a 2 win team who’s only wins are Oglethorpe (who???) and Tennessee Tech. Kennesaw is Ranked 313 in the country using the NCAA NET rankings. But hey, seeing as we are 317, this was a big upset on the road. Congrats, Matt. Worst non conference scheduler in the country. Can’t wait for our big battle at UMKC. Just get rid of him already. I am not justifying anything with this team, but it's kind of silly to complain about the non-conference scheduling being weak when the team is barely scraping by. If they were playing competition that was any better then the results would be even worse. Just imagine if we had a schedule full of Power 5 schools. I for one am fine with the level of opponents based on the success level, or lack there of, of the program. At this level really the goal is to do as well as you can during the season to get the best seed possible in the conference tournament in hopes you can win and make the big dance. The non-conference is really for s*@^s & giggles because rarely is a CAA team going to be in position to have an at large bid and really need to have a great SOS or RPI. Not joking, and no offense to everyone else because I feel the pain as much as the rest of you all, but this is the most logical thing I have read in a long time on this thread, and feel that needs to be pointed out.
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Post by Coach Search Committee on Dec 19, 2018 23:21:17 GMT -5
I am not justifying anything with this team, but it's kind of silly to complain about the non-conference scheduling being weak when the team is barely scraping by. If they were playing competition that was any better then the results would be even worse. Just imagine if we had a schedule full of Power 5 schools. I for one am fine with the level of opponents based on the success level, or lack there of, of the program. At this level really the goal is to do as well as you can during the season to get the best seed possible in the conference tournament in hopes you can win and make the big dance. The non-conference is really for s*@^s & giggles because rarely is a CAA team going to be in position to have an at large bid and really need to have a great SOS or RPI. Not joking, and no offense to everyone else because I feel the pain as much as the rest of you all, but this is the most logical thing I have read in a long time on this thread, and feel that needs to be pointed out. Agreed that it doesn't mean anything, but it would be nice to see our team tested a bit. I think the argument is that these schedules are made well in advance of the season. When you make a schedule for a team that was going to have 5 senior starters, it's pathetic that you are putting games on there against non division one opponents. It's a clear attempt to pad the win column. Matheny is soft in every way possible. If you think his schedule making is actually well done, then you are on a different planet as far as I'm concerned. Unfortunately, he has so many other shortcomings, that poor scheduling does come off as petty to be mad about, but make no mistake, this non conference was an absolute drag.
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Post by bhill483 on Dec 20, 2018 1:06:15 GMT -5
Basketball schedules are not made nearly as far out as football schedules. It probably could have been better in that regards knowing we would have the experience that we do. I like when there are a few bigger name schools on the schedule to look forward to a possible upset. This year the only interesting non-conference games were UNC, UNCG and Furman. The last 2 more so because of old rivalries.
I don't think that scheduling is not as much on the coach as the AD IMO. Sure the coach can use some connections to get a game here or there (the UNC game only happened because of Jack Wooten and JB Tanner being on the staff), but the AD schedules things for the most part (as far as I know). It may be and attempt at padding the win column, but I do not think it is for Matheny's record as much as trying to get the guys some wins and momentum going into CAA play - although that has failed miserably and now we are just losing to not good teams and have nothing to build on heading into conference play.
I still fall back to the fact that a better schedule would not help the situation and probably only make it worse. Instead of close losses we could be getting blown out. I am not saying this is a great schedule, I am just trying to have a reasonable discussion about it.
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Post by EBB on Dec 20, 2018 8:04:56 GMT -5
Fans are not stupid. Beating up on Central Pen is the equivalent of being a playground bully: Takes advantage of the smaller & weaker, still gets his backside kicked by the real studs. Plus beating up on weaklings does not help prepare for conference play. It's not $h!+s and giggles to me, it's just sad. We either need to get better or take our lumps in an effort to get better.
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Post by joe schmo on Dec 20, 2018 8:55:55 GMT -5
ADs do not make basketball schedules
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Post by Coach Search Committee on Dec 20, 2018 14:33:09 GMT -5
ADs do not make basketball schedules This is correct, typically you have an assistant coach who is the expert scheduler who helps the head coach with it. They are made further out than you would think. With home and home games and early season tournaments, come the summer, the coaches typically only have just a few games left to schedule. I get the argument that it doesn't matter because the CAA is not an at large type of league, but the scheduling was so pathetic. Why not put together a game with High Point, or you know, maybe one at Davidson where Matt played and coached for years?? And if you want momentum going into the CAA, don't lose 3 games in 3 days to similar level teams in a mid season tournament. If you really are okay with 2 of our 6 non conference home games being against non D1 opponents you are being incredibly narrow minded.
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