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Post by Johnny on Oct 26, 2016 19:22:11 GMT -5
3 wins out of the next 4 makes sense. Tough to count that D2 victory and a 5-6 season is tolerable at this point.
Anything less is unacceptable. I don't believe that the university will fire him even if we go 2-9. It will take an alum(s) paying off his contract to initate any change.
Also, to hire a viable OC, RS will have to restructure his staff. I don't believe that he will do it. He had to give Wrobo the title to pay him close to what he was making at rutgers. The OL has been a bright spot.
Would have been easier to recruit a few QBs that can play at this level, at least one would have been nice.
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Post by fc4life on Oct 26, 2016 20:31:29 GMT -5
Changing the offense shows that CRS understands that things must change. IF he does make a change, we'll be able see fairly early if the offense has promise. We should be returning everyone outside of one offensive lineman.
I can guarantee you the only way CRS gets let go is if changes are asked to be made and he refuses.
We have two winnable games vs URI and Towson. We have to be competitive vs Albany and hope JMU does not score 70 on us.
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Post by Elon 2000 on Oct 27, 2016 7:22:17 GMT -5
I believe the the culture on this staff is growing, I think coach RDmight be the man to lead us back. I just believe that it's too much to be the HC and OC. My point is that a change in scheme and a true OC is the way to go. We are dealing with nearly a full three year sample size. We're not getting better. It's fact. What makes you think this? And why give more patience than Hamilton or Swepson got? Skrosky took over a dumpster fire. From what I heard the admin expected it to take 3 or 4 years to even get competitive because of the lack of talent Swepson brought in his last year or two. I also think that they didn't think it would be this bad in year 3 though. I doubt they make a move this season. In terms of the OC it would be hard to add an OC to the full staff which hasn't changed outside the DC retiring. As well as asking a coach to give up play calling which he has done the last 8 years or so. It could be I terestingnext season though. |
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Post by fc4life on Oct 27, 2016 8:59:46 GMT -5
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Post by Johnny on Oct 27, 2016 10:08:29 GMT -5
Fluff piece is accurate. We can't score and it doesn't matter who is calling the plays without a QB that can throw down the field 20+ yards on a consistent basis.
Richmond played man the entire game and my view is the next 4 opponents will do the same. Load 7 to 8 men in the box and dare us to throw it.
Admin won't fire RS, it will take withholding donations from big donors to force their hand.
RS may have iniheirted a dumpster fire but he hasn't found the formula to extinguish it.
Run the Power I with 2 tight ends.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 27, 2016 10:38:58 GMT -5
So that means Worldly has 1 more year. What would you want to see to save his job, hiring an OC to me isn't enough, but also 1 year of a new OC isn't enough to judge eitherI disagree. If improvement rather than a complete turnaround is the standard. I think it will be hard to find a place for a new OC though. My guess is that we are maxed out on the coaches salary entry. Plus I think Wrobo has done what he was hired by Skrosky to do - Improve the OL. How do you demote him? Would he stay another year if he was? I frankly have more confidence in Wrobo than any other coach on the team. So, that is a tough situation. I do think, however, that we absolutely need to change our approach with the offense. Every CAA team knows they can make us one dimensional. I think that's the reason we pass so much to our running backs. Of course, that doesn't seem to work either. I'm honestly not sure there's an easy solution. |
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Post by elonfan10 on Oct 27, 2016 17:18:58 GMT -5
Fluff piece is accurate. We can't score and it doesn't matter who is calling the plays without a QB that can throw down the field 20+ yards on a consistent basis. Richmond played man the entire game and my view is the next 4 opponents will do the same. Load 7 to 8 men in the box and dare us to throw it. Admin won't fire RS, it will take withholding donations from big donors to force their hand. RS may have iniheirted a dumpster fire but he hasn't found the formula to extinguish it. Run the Power I with 2 tight ends. Hughes can throw downfield but for whatever reason RS won't give him a chance. |
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Post by FightinPhoenix on Oct 28, 2016 6:49:11 GMT -5
What tape have you even seen on his deep ball throwing??? <abbr title="Oct 27, 2016 12:18:58 GMT -5" class="o-timestamp time" data-timestamp="1477606738000">
Oct 27, 2016 12:18:58 GMT -5</abbr> elonfan10 said:Fluff piece is accurate. We can't score and it doesn't matter who is calling the plays without a QB that can throw down the field 20+ yards on a consistent basis. Richmond played man the entire game and my view is the next 4 opponents will do the same. Load 7 to 8 men in the box and dare us to throw it. Admin won't fire RS, it will take withholding donations from big donors to force their hand. RS may have iniheirted a dumpster fire but he hasn't found the formula to extinguish it. Run the Power I with 2 tight ends. Hughes can throw downfield but for whatever reason RS won't give him a chance. |
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Post by elonfan10 on Oct 28, 2016 7:50:03 GMT -5
What tape have you even seen on his deep ball throwing??? [ Hughes can throw downfield but for whatever reason RS won't give him a chance. [/quote] Have seen tape on youtube. Search conor hughes elon football. |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 28, 2016 8:33:08 GMT -5
I looked at the Hughes Video. He can definitely sling it downfield. He had a couple of sure handed receivers and a lot of time to throw though. What we don't know is anything about his speed in decision making at the FCS level. This doesn't mean he isn't capable, we just haven't seen it. I know, "It couldn't be any worse", well maybe.
I also re-watched CC's Senior video. I want that guy! He was threading needles back then. I think CC's shoulder may have been causing him a problem for a lot longer time than we thought. At Elon he's had the propensity miss his target too often. But a shoulder injury can play havoc with a QB's accuracy, even if it isn't acute, much more so if it is. I'm pretty sure the story is that he injured his right shoulder early in his HS career and injured his left, (throwing), shoulder his senior year. Assuming the first surgery didn't "take", this could have been the reason for the misfires. After a second look, I think "if" CC can come back from the latest reconstruction, we may have our man. Go back & look at this video & see if you don't agree. He had a porous OL and in many cases very little time to get the ball thrown, but he either threaded the needle, or tucked & ran for positive yardage.
Here's hoping Connor's shoulder surgery was/is a huge success. Both for Connor and our team!!
OK, Homer, go ahead & beat me up some...
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Post by fc4life on Oct 28, 2016 9:17:13 GMT -5
You do realize these are HIGH SCHOOL tapes, right?
The jump from high school to FCS is huge. Let alone D3.
Watch Daniel Thompson's. You'd be saying the same thing. There are tons of "Tommy Goodtapes" out there. However, as we've seen it's hard to make the jump and have your game translate.
In the end, we have an archaic scheme and below average QB play. End of story.
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Post by elonfan10 on Oct 28, 2016 9:29:37 GMT -5
Yes of course these are HS tapes, what else would he have? And yes D1 is a faster pace and who knows how well he or other QBs on the team would do.
But given DT's play, which has been "horrific" as another poster said, I would give Hughes and other kids a chance before giving up on the team which is how things seems at this point. Same QB, same bad throws, same plays, same results. It's as if RS has no idea how to fix things and is not willing to try.
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Post by homer on Oct 28, 2016 14:27:55 GMT -5
Here's hoping Connor's shoulder surgery was/is a huge success. Both for Connor and our team!! OK, Homer, go ahead & beat me up some... I don't think I could beat you up if I wanted to.  You inspired me to look at his highlight video. www.hudl.com/video/3/1271496/5721b0a719a53e2a1840687aYes, it's high school. And past performance does not guarantee future returns. But... Only CC knows how hurt he's been and how that shoulder has affected him, if at all. One thing that caught my attention was how well he seemed to throw on the run. If that's still in his wheelhouse, he should be rolling out every third play. And maybe his high school coach could be a college OC.  Back to the current situation, though. I think you go with DT this weekend. If it's a flop in the first half, give it to Hughes. |
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Post by elonpride on Oct 28, 2016 16:37:24 GMT -5
Elon may play playoff spoiler to Albany.....
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Post by Get all the facts on Oct 28, 2016 22:08:18 GMT -5
What makes you think this? And why give more patience than Hamilton or Swepson got? Skrosky took over a dumpster fire. From what I heard the admin expected it to take 3 or 4 years to even get competitive because of the lack of talent Swepson brought in his last year or two. I also think that they didn't think it would be this bad in year 3 though. I doubt they make a move this season. In terms of the OC it would be hard to add an OC to the full staff which hasn't changed outside the DC retiring. As well as asking a coach to give up play calling which he has done the last 8 years or so. It could be I terestingnext season though. |
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