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Post by homer on Jan 3, 2017 13:20:16 GMT -5
We all recognize that the Elon QB situation isn't rosy. DT flamed out in 2016. CC is rehabbing his throwing shoulder. Could Cignetti bring one of his IUP QBs with him? If so, it won't impact 2017, but could later. His options are Lenny Williams and Mike Pietropola, both juniors to be. Williams is a D2 stud. But he injured his knee in a late season game. Don't know how hobbled he will be. His stats are pretty crazy. static.iupathletics.com/custompages/Football/2016/plyr_5O.htmHe could sit out the next year and get the knee fully healthy. Or Cignetti could bring Pietropola. In fact, he was at the news conference yesterday. Apparently he's Cignetti's daughter's boyfriend. Coach also mentioned him in the news conference as the best back-up QB in the country. Clearly, the coach likes this kid. Here are his stats: static.iupathletics.com/custompages/Football/2016/plyr_13.htm
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Post by fc4life on Jan 3, 2017 14:41:37 GMT -5
The DC at IUP has been named interim coach through 2017. Looks like he won't be coming to Elon
The staff is one thing I'm very interested in.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 3, 2017 16:28:01 GMT -5
Why would there be no impact of a transfer QB in 2017? I thought if you transferred to a different level you could play right away.
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Post by Grandpa on Jan 3, 2017 16:40:21 GMT -5
Only if you move down or to a non scholarship program (Ivy)
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Post by whoanellie on Jan 3, 2017 19:15:40 GMT -5
the biggest thing I see on his resume' is his expertise and experience in developing Quarterbacks. think who He has been around the last 35 years, Dan Marino, Philip Rivers, Russell Wilson, John Parker Wilson & Brodie Croyle and a lot in between. Let's hope He can quickly rebuild. One big thing is there has to be run option threat. We already have a large young roster, It will be challenging.
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Post by Elonguest2017 on Jan 4, 2017 9:40:16 GMT -5
The more i read about Lenny Williams at IUP, the more I think he could have an impact for us at Elon. He was at Temple and then transferred to IUP b/c they were trying to convert him into a defensive back. Read this article: triblive.com/sports/college/district/9120063-74/williams-iup-quarterback These are his own words... "I didn't want to give up playing D-I because I believe I can play on that level and be a quarterback somewhere” “I tried to get away from caring what other people think about you: ‘Oh, he couldn't play D-I, so he had to go D-II.' If that's what people think, then that's what it is. They're entitled to their opinion. I just have to learn to make myself happy.” I am not necessarily a fan of Coach Cignetti "gutting" his old team by bringing his star QB with him to Elon, but as mentioned earlier, IUP has two top QBs, so if this means they both get to be starters, then I'd say I'm all for it.
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Post by fc4life on Jan 4, 2017 9:58:31 GMT -5
Either way, we have two QB's who have yet to prove that they can standout at the CAA level. If the IUP QB transfers to Elon, he still needs to sit out. We have one QB committed that is more of a straight passer. I would look for one more to be signed that is a dual-threat QB.
We'll have this distribution at QB - those on scholarship:
SR - 0 r JR - 1 JR - 1 Soph - 0 Frosh - 1 - tbd
That's horrible distribution.
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Post by homer on Jan 4, 2017 10:49:59 GMT -5
... as mentioned earlier, IUP has two top QBs, so if this means they both get to be starters, then I'd say I'm all for it. I'm not sure they have two top QBs. Williams? Yes, that's very viable. Pietropola? Mediocre stats. Perhaps his best performance is in catching the coach's daughter.
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Post by Grandpa on Jan 4, 2017 11:07:04 GMT -5
Why would Lenny Williams transfer to Elon? IUP will be in the national and conference championship mix the next 2 years. What waste that opportunity? Zero upside for the young man.
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Post by homer on Jan 4, 2017 11:47:13 GMT -5
Why would Lenny Williams transfer to Elon? IUP will be in the national and conference championship mix the next 2 years. What waste that opportunity? Zero upside for the young man. Unless Cignetti can convince him Elon is on the cusp of turning it around. Bigger national stage. Granted, that's a tough sell.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 4, 2017 12:06:22 GMT -5
Why would Lenny Williams transfer to Elon? IUP will be in the national and conference championship mix the next 2 years. What waste that opportunity? Zero upside for the young man. Unless Cignetti can convince him Elon is on the cusp of turning it around. Bigger national stage. Granted, that's a tough sell. The kid is an accounting major. Our highly ranked business school along with the possibility of starting an MBA while he finishes out his football career could be the edge that gets him here. He also said in the interview that he felt he could play QB on the D1 level, so he may have something to prove. IMO if you put a capable, true dual threat QB in the mix with the current team, you go from the cellar to the middle of the conference or higher, all other personnel remaining the same. There's a lot of good here at Elon, IMO the most glaring deficiencies are QB, effective play calling and motivation.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 4, 2017 12:15:48 GMT -5
FYI:
Lenny Williams Finishes 2016 as Division II Leader in Three Individual Categories Bookmark and Share INDIANA, Pa. – With the 2016 NCAA Division II season officially coming to a close on Saturday, IUP redshirt sophomore quarterback Lenny Williams, Jr. (McKees Rocks, Pa./Sto-Rox) was officially named an individual statistical champion in three passing categories. Williams led Division II in passing efficiency (214.0), passing yards per completion (19.70) and passing yards per attempt (13.47). The second-year starter completed 93-of-136 passes (68.4 pct.) for 1832 yards, 14 touchdowns and one interception. His efficiency rating broke a 63-year old Division II single season record, under the minimum 15 attempts per game category. The former record of 210.1 was held by Boyd Crawford of Albertson (72-120, 1462 yards, 21 touchdowns). Williams also ranked fifth in Division II with a 68.4 completion percentage and 21st with 17.3 points responsible for per game. The dual threat added 594 rushing yards and 12 touchdowns on 104 carries, averaging 5.7 yards per carry and 66.0 yards per game. Williams totaled 2426 yards in his nine games, an average of 269.6 yards per game. Williams added to his trophy case in 2016 The IUP signal caller was named a second team All-PSAC West selection and was a nominee for the Harlon Hill Award, which goes to the best player in Division II, for the second straight season. Williams was also the Super Region One and PSAC West Freshman of the Year in 2015. Lenny in the IUP record books Williams added his name to the school record books, breaking IUP records for passer efficiency and pass completion percentage in a season. He also currently holds the school's career mark with a 62.0 completion percentage in his two seasons (212-of-342). His 1823 rushing yards in two season is currently 17th all-time and his 24 rushing touchdowns is 10th.
IUP individual national rankings summary (top 30) Interceptions/game (0.6), ninth - Jay Watkins (Chester, Pa. /Hyde School); Yards per reception (21.88), 11th - Walt Pegues (Philadelphia, Pa. /Central); Blocked kicks (2), 14th - Mason Tortorice (Elizabeth, Pa. /Elizabeth Forward); Rushing touchdowns (17), 17th - Chris Temple (Malvern, Pa. /Great Valley); Tackles per game (10.9), 17th - Kevin Clarke (West Mifflin, Pa. /West Mifflin); Total touchdowns (17), 24th - Temple; Receiving yards/game (94.1), 28th - Pegues; Passes defended/game (1.4), Points/game (9.3), 28th - Temple; 29th - Watkins; Rushing yards/carry (6.1), 29th - Samir Bullock (Philadelphia, Pa./Archbishop Ryan).
IUP team national rankings summary (top 20) Passing efficiency (183.44), first; Turnover margin (+2.08), first; Passing yards per completion (19.51), second; Scoring offense (46.3), third; Third down conversions (56.6 pct), third; Turnovers gained (35), third; Passes intercepted (24), third; Blocked kicks (8), third; Rushing offense (279.8), fourth; Passes had intercepted (4), fourth; Turnovers lost (10), fifth; Blocked punts (4), fifth; Defensive touchdowns (6), sixth; Red zone offense (88.3 pct), 15th; Red zone defense (67.4 pct), 20th.
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Post by LennyWilliams2ELON on Jan 4, 2017 12:26:49 GMT -5
I don't think selling Elon and the opportunity to play division 1 football in the CAA is a tough sell to anyone playing DII football.
It will really depend on his health - will he be ready to play in 2017 or will he not be 100%? If he is not 100% then sitting out as a transfer would actually prevent him from losing a year of eligibility and allow him to rehab to where he's 100% and ready to go in 2018 and still have two years left...
We obviously don't know how his skills would translate at the FCS level...DII football is not the CAA, but the fact that Temple had him on their roster tells me he probably would do just fine at Elon.
Even if he is sitting out a year, I think his knowledge of Cignetti's offense would be really helpful for CC if he is the starter, then those two can battle it out when Williams is healthy in 2018...
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Post by homer on Jan 4, 2017 12:55:46 GMT -5
If Williams has to miss a year or a larger portion of a year to rehab, then he has plenty of reason to transfer. He would miss a season anyway. But rehabbing for a year makes him less attractive as an athlete. He had surgery to repair torn anterior cruciate and medial collateral ligaments in his right knee on Nov. 21. I'm no doctor, but that doesn't sound promising for 2017.
Interesting situation. We could know soon. Heck, might even be the start of spring semester.
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Post by Grandpa on Jan 4, 2017 13:54:45 GMT -5
I remember a former QB not that long ago transferring to Temple.
One other factor is does he have the grades to get in. Cignetti's big challenge will be managing and adhering to the APR requirements. Don't underestimate how big that hurdle is.
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