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Post by trianglephan on Oct 19, 2015 19:35:42 GMT -5
Huge mistake trying to play so many freshman and build a team off that. We needed our upperclassmen and seniors. How about transfers? Would have been a good idea to bring in a few so that our freshman could have a season to develop and our older guys could enjoy the season and be competative. That is what you have to do in the CAA. The CAA is not a joke! Still puzzled as to why we did not keep our senior QB who is now playing at FBS level!! He is playing guys out of position. Not capitalizing on the talent and experience we do have on the team. We do have older players on the team that are experienced and can catch the ball!! Why arent we using them more in the passing game?? They are being under utilized! Wish we had a coach that coached to win instead of using the excuse of a "young team".That excuse is only going to take you so far. Thats not how they roll in the CAA. His job is to build a winning program and to do whatever it takes to get that accomplished. Amen. Agree on all fronts. For the life of me I will never understand why he chased Loughery off. I remember Fall camp last year where Skrosky was praising him and waited until last minute to name Quinn starter. As season unfolded, he wouldn't even give Lock mop up duty in blowouts. Chased off Andre Davis and others who could have played significant roles this year o offense. In general, my biggest complaint is that that he wrote off a bunch of upper class man who could have contributed this year on O.
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Post by VBPhan on Oct 19, 2015 19:36:05 GMT -5
Pearsall is a specimen! Faster and more talented than the rest and 6' 5" 245. He is the one you want to get off the bus first.
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Post by EP1980 on Oct 19, 2015 20:13:21 GMT -5
Huge mistake trying to play so many freshman and build a team off that. We needed our upperclassmen and seniors. How about transfers? Would have been a good idea to bring in a few so that our freshman could have a season to develop and our older guys could enjoy the season and be competative. That is what you have to do in the CAA. The CAA is not a joke! Still puzzled as to why we did not keep our senior QB who is now playing at FBS level!! He is playing guys out of position. Not capitalizing on the talent and experience we do have on the team. We do have older players on the team that are experienced and can catch the ball!! Why arent we using them more in the passing game?? They are being under utilized! Wish we had a coach that coached to win instead of using the excuse of a "young team".That excuse is only going to take you so far. Thats not how they roll in the CAA. His job is to build a winning program and to do whatever it takes to get that accomplished. Amen. Agree on all fronts. For the life of me I will never understand why he chased Loughery off. I remember Fall camp last year where Skrosky was praising him and waited until last minute to name Quinn starter. As season unfolded, he wouldn't even give Lock mop up duty in blowouts. Chased off Andre Davis and others who could have played significant roles this year o offense. In general, my biggest complaint is that that he wrote off a bunch of upper class man who could have contributed this year on O. Agree 100% Loughery playing at temple, McGuire playing at South Dakota, both Rick Brown and Andre Davis at Cambell, I still don't know why they didn't bring back Robert Davis. They all would have been contributors this season. What happened to Justin Osbourne?
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Post by homer on Oct 19, 2015 21:12:54 GMT -5
Um, maybe facts don't matter much, but three QBs have seen action for Temple. John Loughery is not one of them. One of their QBs has thrown all but five passes. owlsports.com/cumestats.aspx?path=football&year=2015Rick and Andre are top receivers at Campbell. Can't really comment on the others.
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Post by Frustrated Fan on Oct 19, 2015 21:32:25 GMT -5
Finally some sound thinking and comments. Skrosky seems to be a very nice guy who runs strong and detailed practices but cannot call an offensive game or come up with a plan to get off on a positive note at games beginning or during regular first half series. Swepson was terrible communicator but at least the offense was capable of moving the ball. Skrosky's young staff and his desire to use his freshmen and sophs on offense is secondary but a contributing factor to why we see no progress. FYI has anyone else seen Coach Riebock on the sideline yell at the offensive group? First it was TE's at Wake, now WR's regularly, and what happens - they yell back at him - and THEN he puts same kids back on the field for the next series. Riebock has no control and they don't respect him - as freshmen! Freshmen who were handed playing time and didn't earn it and now getting away with this? Who knows, but when they drop the ball, or don't fight off coverage, and then don't take the coaching, something is wrong and changes in staff AND player attitude must change.
As for the TEs, Warrick could use a few more passes thrown his way but he might be losing some to Duprey who seems to run a bit better. Tate has never been given opportunity and Pearsall is non-existent but he is cleared to play and just not being given opportunity. Osbourne was suspended for violation of team issues and I think left school.
Coaching staff should be on notice for the lack of progress. You went young and it has backfired. Right now Skrosky should be cycling through his roster to find the kids who are ready to play, even if upperclassmen in an effort to show his system works at this level. I don't see where one or two wins is even possible at this point with the schedule upcoming. Last year, Skrosky played the same kids ALL year and then pushed many out and then didn't give others a chance. This year he went with his recruits at WR and RB and that hasn't panned out either. Its time to play any/all to find some momentum. If not, we should be considering a coaching staff change unfortunately. I don't buy that no one would come here. Really? An FCS team in the ultracompetitive CAA with one of the most beautiful campuses in N America and a strong academic record. It is the perfect place to come and build a resume as a stepping stone to the next level if that is your ultimate goal. At the very least, we could pick a seasoned coordinator from one of the other CAA teams that knows what it takes on the field and in recruiting to be successful at this level. That's what I would be saying to Blank and Skrosky if we don't see improvement these last four games. There is no excuse with the facilities and location that we cannot hire competently and be competitive within this division. Our campus sells itself as does the facilities. We don't see positive steps and it will affect alumni giving. Football does drive a good portion of the feel good of the school...more than any other athletic team. Time to see a coach coach or an AD fix the problem with a fresh approach and no a recycled one.
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Post by the truth on Oct 19, 2015 22:43:16 GMT -5
I am sick of seeing old (and good) players like Richardson, Ingle, Alt, Acha, and others being benched this year while young players are continuously proving that they are not ready to play. Andre Davis and Ricky Brown are doing very well at Campbell (a team that is 4-3). McGuire who was seemingly pushed out, transferred to South Dakota. Well I guess a team that just beat the 4 time national champions last week thought he was good enough (see article below). The truth is Skrosky cant see real talent and likes to push out the good players to bring in young. Skrosky is not able to keep the good players around because he decides that the ones who have worked their butts off for this team for years should get benched. His is pushing his own agenda rather than playing the best players and the ones that can win games. www.argusleader.com/story/sports/college/university-of-south-dakota/2015/10/17/unbelievable-coyotes-stun-no-3-ndsu/74050358/
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Post by homer on Oct 19, 2015 23:54:00 GMT -5
His is pushing his own agenda rather than playing the best players and the ones that can win games. Correct me if I'm wrong here, but isn't a coach's personal agenda simply to win games?
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Post by elonpride on Oct 20, 2015 7:54:01 GMT -5
Nobody care who Elon is playing and do not have any knowledge of these teams. At least we could have healthy debates when we were in the SOCON with fans from other schools (not just App St.....but WC, Citadel, Furman, Wofford). Ran into people all the time from those schools who enjoyed talking SOCON football. I agree there were healthy debates, but wholeheartedly disagree with the first part of your statement. Where do you live? 1. I run in to CAA people all the time in my neck of the woods in VA when I'm out wearing my Elon hat. W&M & JMU fans mainly. 2. I did the same when I was in Richmond, which just happens to have one of the largest Alumni chapters. Almost every day I would see Elon stickers on cars riding around that city. This comes with being the new guy, and not having established rivals. I can sure see some nice ones in the making with Richmond and W&M, seeing there is a huge Elon fans base in those areas.
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Post by elonfan10 on Oct 20, 2015 8:16:18 GMT -5
I have two things to add:
1) I watched Loughery last year in some practices and scrimmages, he is just not a very good QB. He is on the Temple roster but not on the depth chart. I doubt he ever sees the field there. I agree though that RS could have treated him better last year, and given him some game snaps.
2) Yes it should be Skrosky's personal agenda to win. I think his character flaw, and I never met him, just going by what I see at the games, is that he is very stubborn. He picks his players and then sticks with them no matter what. He seems to give preference, on offense, to 'his guys' - meaning his recruits, no matter what happens on the field. It is annoying to watch and should not be tolerated by the AD at this level or any level for that matter. He has his few plays that he likes to run, and he does not deviate from them. We should expect much more creative play calling at this level.
I hope somehow we see different personnel and play calling in these last few games. As another poster said last year we saw the same stuff all season, hope that's not how we finish this year.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 20, 2015 9:12:18 GMT -5
Yes it should be Skrosky's personal agenda to win. I think his character flaw, and I never met him, just going by what I see at the games, is that he is very stubborn. He picks his players and then sticks with them no matter what. He seems to give preference, on offense, to 'his guys' - meaning his recruits, no matter what happens on the field. It is annoying to watch and should not be tolerated by the AD at this level or any level for that matter. He has his few plays that he likes to run, and he does not deviate from them. We should expect much more creative play calling at this level. [/p][/quote] Completely disagree with this statement. The AD controls what happens on the field by hiring or firing the coach. He needs to keep his nose out of it otherwise. Frankly, an AD that meddles in the details of coaching needs to be fired IMO.
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Post by elonfan10 on Oct 20, 2015 11:15:27 GMT -5
Let me clarify my position. I don't think the AD should tell a coach which TE should play, or which plays to run or anything like that. But if I was the AD I would simply ask RS what are you going to do differently over the next four weeks to get the program moving into a better direction. And if he was to say "I am going to run the same plays with the same players", well that wouldn't go over too well with me.
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Post by Keepthefaith on Oct 20, 2015 13:39:58 GMT -5
I believe the stony brook game will set the tone for the final weeks.
If the team plays well, they can turn this season around along with the program's future.
If not, look out. This could real ugly.
This may very well be a case where the next 10 to 11 days determine Skrosky's future.
Stay tuned...
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Post by fc4life on Oct 20, 2015 14:08:56 GMT -5
Just a couple thoughts:
* Skrosky is in zero and I mean ZERO danger of being under any heat from the administration. They (Ath. Dept) have basically written off any success this year and possibly next year. Does not make it right or wrong. They have basically made it known this is a total rebuild of what Swepson tore down.
* I am greatly disappointed in the lack of progress being shone. We are no better in any phase of the game this year. Punting does not count.
* We need to consider a new scheme on offense. It's brutal to watch.
* I'm not so sure that the vets are any good. There is a reason that they are not playing. It's not that they are better and being sat. It's that, frankly, they were not players for this level of football. Trust me, if they could help us win - they would be playing.
* Based on what I have seen, we have lost the student body and many of our supporters/alumni. Football is an afterthought. It will take a lot to get them back. Winning cures all. However, I don't see us winning again this year. People would rather drink outside the stadium than go inside.
* As for the AD, he's safe as well. If this goes on into year four of Skrosky and basketball continues to struggle for the next couple of years - maybe there will be a change. We are about to launch a campaign to raise money for a basketball arena. Leo will not do anything. I don't like that. However, all Leo cares about is optics. How things look. He could care less if we win or not. Very few people have his ear when it comes to athletics. He wants $$$ and that is not coming from people with athletics ties. If it did, we would see change. Athletics do not drive Elon. That unfortunately is the truth.
I will always support the programs. However, I'm really worried about the lack of results for programs and that we do not seem to place an emphasis on winning. We are happy with our place. That, in a nutshell, sums it up. Until we have a president that truly cares about results and not optics, this is not going to change. The Trustees are content and that is all that matters.
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Post by phoenix2008 on Oct 20, 2015 15:12:30 GMT -5
How can anyone make the claim that our president doesn't care about athetic results, when we have a document called the "Elon Commitment" that has 8 main themes, one of which is titled: "Establishing a national tournament tradition of athletics success along with the highest academic standards for Phoenix athletics"
Key objectives
Consistently win conference championships in both men’s and women’s sports Fully fund scholarships in all sports Set conference standards in academics and gender equity
I get that everyone is frustrated, as am I, but I have no doubt that ur president and AD are committed to creating a winning culture among all our athletic teams (look at athletic scholarship increases year over year, facility upgrades, conference tournaments that we have hosted, heck our soccer team is ranked #10 in the nation! ... all these things are recruiting tools)
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Post by XXX on Oct 20, 2015 15:17:55 GMT -5
Do you really believe Blank is totally safe? Seems to me that he may be a significant donor's displeasure away from being out the door.
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